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	Date/Time	Made By	Edit Note	Type	Scope
	Jun 23 2009, 2:42 PM EDT	lonneke		edit	4 words added
Change: a EBM (Entity business message)Do we need an ESBWe need a pattern. Abstraction, policies, common information model plus transformations.Do we need events: to minimize dependencies between processes.Synchronous versus asynchronousIs this a business or a technical issue?Results Group 3Missing. View changes from previous version. (Word count: 1286)
	Jun 23 2009, 2:42 PM EDT	lonneke	Added all results	edit	436 words added
Change: The afternoon was dedicated to SOA from a more technical perspective. Clemens Utschig set the stage with a presentation about the role of EDA and events in a SOA environment. We then split into three groups again, and discussed the following questions based on the airport case again:No View changes from previous version. (Word count: 1282)
	Jun 23 2009, 2:06 PM EDT	lonneke		edit	106 words added 104 words deleted
Change: Make sure it adds business value and it is something that is exciting or cool so it can be sold to the rest of the company: people need to be wanting to be part of it.it should be non trivialagileadhere to a broader View changes from previous version. (Word count: 847)
	Jun 23 2009, 2:04 PM EDT	lonneke	Added results of third group of the morning	edit	191 words added
Change: 1. Cost! -> efficiency. In this case, for the airlines to use the airport. For example make on boarding more efficient for pilots and staff. When a new airline starts operating from an airport, a lot of time and effort is being spend in security clearance, data about staff etc. View changes from previous version. (Word count: 845)
	Jun 23 2009, 12:45 AM EDT	lonneke	added results of second group in morning session	edit	126 words added
Change: ROADMAPIssues:Experience factorInvestments (spread of)Poc does not take performance into accountRoadmapgoals -> business, long term (business case) and short termrequirements -> infrastructure, traininginvestments, it and non ittimelinesimpactdependenciestransitionsscopingrisk mitigationresourcesskillsetsponsorownergovernancestandards & methods View changes from previous version. (Word count: 651)
	Jun 22 2009, 12:24 AM EDT	lonneke		edit	27 words added
Change: be personalized with offerings, discounts etc based on previous sales and experiences.The advantage of using SOA in this case would be agility. The ability to add retailers and services quickly without having to recode the entire existing system. View changes from previous version. (Word count: 524)
	Jun 22 2009, 12:22 AM EDT	lonneke	results of morning session of first group	edit	413 words added
Change: This will impact the choice for the first project and your approach to the business problem at hand. The first project should make it clear View changes from previous version. (Word count: 497)
	Jun 22 2009, 12:04 AM EDT	lonneke		edit	78 words added
Change: This page contains the result of the SOA/BPM symposium at ODTUG Kaleidoscope 2009. This was a highly interactive day with two workshops and a panel discussion. This can serve as a start for gathering of knowlegde and common solutions in SOA/BPM projects. The goal is to View changes from previous version. (Word count: 80)
	Jun 22 2009, 12:02 AM EDT	lonneke		create	No content added or deleted.
Change: Created by lonneke Jun 22 2009, 12:02 AM EDT for: no reason given

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